Now, it seems that the word says old men should be treated like fathers and this would mean that the young people should be treated like your own children-now Pk(Pastor's kid) kids could get a little jealous of course-but the deacon or pastor must be able to maintain his own household and use wisdom-you get me tho.  You really can't do everything and she has to hear God as well. Lot and his wife know this. The word makes clear that we must suffer the little children unto Jesus and not hinder them ...with any millstone of ungodly treatment.  Many fathers from certain cultures who may have been abused in the same where abuse is more the norm than the exception, have come to believe that it is their God given right to wish and will and treat their children any way they see fit.  They, needing this sense of power over someone or something, refuse to let go of certain children that they believe are their children with good reason and stay hindered in their own maturing process by not letting go.  This may continue into their sixties and they call the children repeatedly to say "sorry" for their misdeeds and the child has heard this soo many times that, while not wanting to dishonor any parental figure, he finds it essential to inoculate himself from the degraded and fallacious mentality of that parent. It could be a father.  It could be a mother.  They could find a dog or a fish that fits into their need to have power and control over someone or something and let that child breathe.  They could even call the dog Jezebel ( apparently Jezebel was a pretty woman but pretty does not mean godly or without excuse for immature and selfish behaviour).  If the child tells you they are joining Tai Chi, is it always the case that you find the will to join that class or attend that play at the very moment in time or instance that the child has taken that direction to join?  It seems so. Now, the manor in which one should treat a child in terms of biblical wisdom should not be affected by ones social affiliations or the clubs one chooses to support.  Does this also apply if you are a Pastor and a Mason? She was a young woman who was weak-willed and did not need to be taken advantage of; even if she did get down on the ground at 37 and started to play Doll-House-and you joined her in front of her father, fiance, his parents and her parents and she went home to sleep in the same bed as her fiance but she always said....please let us not go too far and save some for the wedding night and he agreed because she was sort of a virgin, she said, and her ways, as in proverbs 5, were unknowable.  She did say quite often that "...one day you will appreciate me."  But, she had a swiss army watch and lots of cologne(never mind that it was bought at the discount perfume outlet) as proof of that.

See the long play concerto of the month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2pFLZIrFqU